...with Jim Wallis who is over on a short tour promoting his new book Seven Ways to Change the World (available from the Ekklesia bookshop) .
I haven't seen him for a couple of years since I reviewed his last book for the Guardian , which caused a bit of a stir when it was endorsed by Gordon Brown. (I can't really review this one as I have given an endorsement which is printed on the cover!)
Jim has developed quite a close relationship with Brown over the last few years, and has a lot of respect for the way he has pushed forward the international poverty/ debt issues. He was very down that Brown has been getting such a hard time of late. But Jim was very upbeat and optimistic about the way that the Religious Right in the US has been losing its hold, the way the evangelical agenda has been broadening to encompass issues of social justice, climate change etc...
Jim has also known Obama for about 10 years, and reckons he would good news if he ends up President, in terms of his receptiveness to the anti-poverty agenda, and stance on Iran.